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Cappra 250 53m,Sunday 4-Mar-2001 22:39:36,,Need seat foam for my cappra. Any suggestions? Any ideas or help greatly appreciated. Thanks,,e_sisneros@hotmail.com IMPALA,Monday 26-Feb-2001 18:29:56,,Does anyone have or know of a 250 Montesa Impala for sale. This is a road bike produced around 1968. I would appreciate any leads. The bike will receive a good home!,Robert Pryde,robpry@ihug.com.au wanted engine for cota 348,Monday 26-Feb-2001 15:55:14,,do you have a engine/crank or cluch for 348 cota ,graham,turbodisel@ic24.net Cappra MX 250 Engine,Monday 26-Feb-2001 02:38:13,,Completely rebuilt Cappra MX 250 engine. Rare - 1100 produced. Email serious offers. hrlybstr@email.com,KD,hrlybstr@email.com Re: Cappra MX 250 Engine,Monday 5-Mar-2001 10:14:25,,Whats the the prefix in engine number? I might be interested.,,e_sisneros@hotmail.com Homepage,Saturday 24-Feb-2001 16:23:12,,Hi look at this interesting Homepage: http://www.csun.edu/~ce46911/Costea_csun/408projects/project2.html Best regards Dieter,Dieter,dieter.langbein@gmx.de 1963 Montessa Capra Crankshaft,Sunday 11-Feb-2001 22:15:41,,I am looking for a crankshaft to my 1963 Montessa 250 Capra motor. If it is not possible to find one who might be able to make one or get a replacement? Thank you!,Barry Mitchell,blm00@juno.com Re: 1963 Montessa Capra Crankshaft,Tuesday 13-Feb-2001 03:11:54,,Please check your model number and year. There were no Cappra's or 250 cc offered in 1963. numbers are located on the steering head and or on the top of the front motor mount. The 250 was not offered until 64-65. The mxer's were not named Cappra's until 1968. Viva JB ,JB,vr250@swlink.net Re: 1963 Montessa Capra Crankshaft,Saturday 3-Mar-2001 21:14:14,,Give me an engine number. I may have a new used one or I might be able to build one from NOS,,rmmhaberbosch@bendnet.com Montesa-Honda MH 123,Saturday 10-Feb-2001 19:42:47,,Hi does anybody know the differences between the Cota 123 and the MH 123? Are there any differences more than the badges? My bike is a MH 123 from 1985 - and I need all informations I can get! Specially I am looking for a sprocket with 12 or 13 teeth and a wiring diagram. Does the 64 mm bore cylinder of the MH 200 fit on zhe crankcase of the MH 123? Thank you for answering! Dieter ,Dieter,dieter.langbein@gmx.de Ign.CDI Unit,Friday 9-Feb-2001 17:37:32,,Does anyone know where i can find a bottom end CDI unit for a 78 H-6 360 Enduro.Thanks for any help..,Roger,ROGERDALE360@EXCITE.COM cota349 1980,Wednesday 7-Feb-2001 13:54:11,,as anybody got a workshop manual or anyting which will assist me in stripping dowm of the engine!. Thank you jack for your information any replies to ANDREW@ingham63.freeserve.co.uk,andy,ANDREW@ingham63.freeserve.co.uk Re: cota349 1980,Saturday 3-Mar-2001 21:15:50,,,,rmm Re: cota349 1980,Saturday 3-Mar-2001 21:17:21,,I can get some specifications and advise on your endeavor. John,,rmmhaberbosch@bendnet.com Wanted: Cota 242 348 349 in Canada,Tuesday 6-Feb-2001 11:37:21,,I'm looking for a Montesa Cota. Either a 242 348 or 349 somewhere in Canada. I live in Manitoba so it doesn't matter whether you are East West North or South. Bike can be any condition as long as it runs and I can pay cash on the spot for the right machine. Would prefer 242 or 348 but let me know what you have for sale and how much you want. I'll reply to all messages and I won't waste your time. Thanks Ray,Ray,rayc@mb.sympatico.ca Re: Wanted: Cota 242 348 349 in Canada,Thursday 8-Feb-2001 17:56:28,,try Dallan m/c i believe they are on vancouver island) I'm sure they could hook you up with a bike/ or a source Gerry www.dallanmotorcyles.com ,Gerry w,fxrt@home.com MONTESA COTA 349 1980,Monday 5-Feb-2001 20:00:53,,MY MONTESA COTA 349 REVS AS IF IT IS NOT SET UP RIGHT NO PROBLEMS ON TICKOVER! CARB SET UP RIGHT AS ANYBODY EXPERIENCED SAME FAULT "SUSPECT COIL MAYBEE" ALSO CAN ANYBODY GIVE ME STANDARD SIZE OF FRONT & BACK SPROCKETS. ALL HELP APPRECIATED NEWCOMMER TO THE SPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1,ANDY,ANDREW@ingham63.freeserve.co.uk Re: MONTESA COTA 349 1980,Tuesday 6-Feb-2001 11:28:18,,Andy When you say "rev's like its not set up right" do you mean that it doesn't rev freely (i.e. hesitates or stumbles). If your carb is set up right and the jets are clean then double check the points spark arrestor spark plug and lead. Coils can always go bad but its more likely that the spark arrestor has gone faulty or your points gap is wrong. Montesa's were always pretty good starters so just because it starts and idles doesn't mean the ignition is set up right.,Jack, Re: MONTESA COTA 349 1980,Tuesday 6-Feb-2001 14:44:16,,CAN ANYBODY HELP ME GET MY HANDS ON A WORKSHOP MANUAL OR ANYTHING TO ASSIST IN ME ON A ENGINE STRIP DOWN! ALSO THANK YOU JACK FOR YOUR ADVICE ANY REPLY S TO ANDREW@ingham63.freeserve.co.uk,andy,ANDREW@ingham63.freeseve.co.uk Re: MONTESA COTA 349 1980,Wednesday 7-Feb-2001 16:59:43,,Standard gearing for the Cota 349 is 10t countershaft sprocket with a 38t rear sprocket.,Jared,vr250@swlink.net Re: MONTESA COTA 349 1980,Saturday 3-Mar-2001 21:21:34,,If the engine starts and idles but will not take throttle then replace the condensor as a first option.,,rmmhaberbosch@bendnet.com cota 49 moped?,Monday 5-Feb-2001 13:53:33,,i recently aquired a 49 cc cota that has pedal start instead of a kicker. i checked the sw montesa id guide and it said it was a cota 49 moped made only 1 year. no one seems to know about this model. i am wondering about how many were imported. the bike has less than 125 miles on it and the piston / combustion chamber looks clean. rust however has taken it's toll on the metal surfaces. any advice or info would be appreciated. thanks1,brian,wilsonwash@iquest.net 76 Montesa Cota 247 For Sale,Wednesday 31-Jan-2001 21:20:09,,We have a restorable 76 Montesa Cota 247 all it needs is new tires ignition coil the cylinder wall has very little scoring and the engine is strong. The reason we want to sell it is because my son wants to get a street bike now.,Cindy & Chris,cbuzzeo@connect.ab.ca Re: 76 Montesa Cota 247 For Sale,Thursday 8-Feb-2001 23:50:40,,Do you still have the 247 cota? Please email or call me and let me know. Thanks Bob Peed 816-304-7997,Bob Peed,apeed84984@aol.com Cota 248 problem,Saturday 27-Jan-2001 14:12:20,,-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is oil leaking from the lever which actuates the clutch on the crank casing how do i stop this leak. Also how do i check the oil level there are two plastic caps one near the edge of the crank case and another nearer the middle of the crank case. What are each of these caps for?? Thanks very much Gordon Douglas. ,Gordon Douglas, Re: Cota 248 problem,Wednesday 7-Feb-2001 14:06:20,,Gordon The centre filler plug is for the transmission and holds 10 oz of 90wt gear oil. Filler cap for the clutch is located on top of the clutch cover and holds 6 3/4 oz of 10/30 motor oil. There is no way to check the oil levels on this model you have to drain the oil and refill. ,jared,vr250@swlink.net Re: Cota 248 problem,Saturday 3-Mar-2001 21:29:44,,Your engine has a separate primary and transmission compartment. The primary takes 10 oz. of 10W30 motor oil and the transmission takes 11 oz. of 80W90 Hypoid gear oil. There isn't a dipstick. You will have to make one. Drain and refill the to proper levels first. This may also correct your oil leakage problem. If not you must replace the seal #0263.108.,,rmmhaberbosch@bandnet.com I AM AFTER A SMALL COTA,Saturday 27-Jan-2001 10:55:39,,i am after aquiring a small cota for my son as i have a larger one cota i mean a 349 to be exact does any body have or know of the whereabouts of either a cota 25 or 49 can anyone help . many thanks bazza w ,,WATSONMACHINE@tinyworld.co.uk 348 trail,Saturday 27-Jan-2001 10:47:37,,I found a 348 trail in a basement..the owner said it had not been outside since the early 80s ...does anyone know what its worth? Its in stellar shape...hope to ride it today ?Thanks,,tjwolfe@hotmail.com fuel/oil mixture,Friday 26-Jan-2001 15:13:28,,what oil/fuel mixture should i use on my '78 cota 247 ? is it about 30:1 ?,, Re: fuel/oil mixture,Saturday 27-Jan-2001 00:51:31,,We run Golden Spectro at 42 to 1 on all our vintage trialers. ,JB,vr250@swlink.net Re: fuel/oil mixture,Saturday 3-Mar-2001 21:32:53,,Your engine must use a ratio no leaner then 24:1. The factory recommends a 20:1 ratio. These old engines have marginal bearing sizes. They need sufficient oil. I use Yamaha 2R. John,,rmmhaberbosch@bendnet.com different carb,Tuesday 23-Jan-2001 21:53:03,,I have a early 80's Cota 200. It has the amal carb and it is not responding like it should.I have replaced the needle and jet and even taken it to AMS for adjustment. It bogs off idle and dies out when under load at low rpm's. Does anybody have experance with fitting a more recent carb to a small Montesa engine? I would like to hear about the results. Thanks,darrell,darrell.gregory@asu.edu 247 airbox assembly,Sunday 21-Jan-2001 19:22:41,,hi mike here.can anyone help me locate an airbox assembly for my 71 cota 247?thanks mike,mike crosby,aermachi@hotmail.com Re: 247 airbox assembly,Saturday 3-Mar-2001 21:34:21,,Give me an engine/frame number. I'll see what I've got. John,,rmmhaberbosch@bendnet.com petrol tank grime,Tuesday 16-Jan-2001 17:46:48,,the white plastic tank on my montesa enduro has turned yellowish colour any ideas on the best methods to clean it?,dave, Re: petrol tank grime,Friday 26-Jan-2001 15:06:40,,Have you tryed bleach ? ,, Fork seals - cota 247,Saturday 13-Jan-2001 04:07:38,,I want to replace the fork seals on my cota 247 but all I can find in Johannesburg are 35.47x7mm which appears to be about half the depth I need.Should I use 2 seals in each leg.,Roger, Re: Fork seals - cota 247,Sunday 14-Jan-2001 01:45:44,,Roger The stock setup was two of the 35x47x7mm seals per leg with the snapring on top. Regards Jared Southwest Montesa ,JB,vr250@swlink.net Fork seals - cota 247,Saturday 13-Jan-2001 04:01:06,,,Roger, 247 TANK,Friday 12-Jan-2001 16:01:47,,Why do the ealier cota's have an all in one petrol tank/seat arrangement ? My '78 cota has a alloy tank and a fibre glass cover. Why was this alteration made in later models ? thanks ,,wiztit@hotmail.com Re: 247 TANK,Sunday 14-Jan-2001 01:46:48,,,J, Re: 247 TANK,Sunday 14-Jan-2001 01:49:08,,Fiberglass fuel tanks were not allowed in the UK. They had a fiberglass cover with a metal fuel tank underneath. The US and most of the rest of the world got the fiberglass fuel tanks up until 1980. Regards Jared S/W Montesa,JB,vr250@swlink.net Parts for MONTESA COTA 172,Tuesday 9-Jan-2001 06:16:17,,Hello I'm looking for engine parts for a MONTASA COTA 172. The kickstarter wave storage is broken. Thanks for your help By Axel,Axel,aopree@okay.net Looking for a 314 or newer in Northern California,Tuesday 9-Jan-2001 00:08:54,,Hope to find a 314 or newer bike in really good condition preferably in northern (southern) California SF Bay Area Thanks in advance KLAUS,Klaus,kschambeck@asyst.com or klaus@micro-craft.com parts for '71 248 cota,Wednesday 3-Jan-2001 23:26:16,,I am desperately in need of the following rebuild parts for my 1971 248 COTA. 1. bottom end crank kit 2. piston wrist pin bearings 3. piston I have owned this bike since new and I lent it to a nephew. Well you all know the rest it was returned to me having been run without premix. Any help will be greatly appreciated. TNX sniperjoe,Eric Gunderson,sniperjoe@peoplepc.com Re: parts for '71 248 cota,Friday 5-Jan-2001 09:23:24,,i have all the pubic hair,hello,up yours.com Big Neilly,Wednesday 3-Jan-2001 13:40:50,,Big neilly is the master of all Musdale trials compatitions.,Alan 'God' Campbell,frank@wank.com More 248 problems,Tuesday 2-Jan-2001 12:08:57,,I have a Montesa cota 248. It makes a crunching noise when the engine is hot and i change gear. This does not happen for around 20 minutes. I have put the recommended amount of Silkolene light gear oil in the hole on the top of the crankcase(the hole nearest the side of the crankcase). Can anyone help? Thanks Gordon Douglas Happy new year to all you Cota fans!!,Gordon Douglas,gordon.duglas@freeuk.com Re: More 248 problems,Saturday 3-Mar-2001 21:41:14,,Your engine has a separate transmission from the primary. The hole you have been putting light oil in uses 11 oz. of 80W90 hypoid. The primary takes 10 oz. 10W30 motor oil. John,,rmmhaberbosch@bendnet.com Cota 172,Tuesday 2-Jan-2001 07:59:50,,Hi Cota fans I bought my Cota 172 in Australia back in 1975(?) but I don't see any mention of this model on the US or Spanish sites. Was it not exported to the US? Were they sold in Spain? Info appreciated. Also is/are there any books on Montesa history available that you'd recommend? Please reply direct to email address oxynoe@madasafish.com Thanks Geoff,Geoff,oxynoe@madasafish.com Re: Cota 172,Monday 8-Jan-2001 12:33:10,,Hi Geoff you have a great bike. Motor cases are identical to famous Cota 123 but the carburettor is different (the same that Cota 74). This machine was refurbished and sold again in 1980 as Cota 200. Any parts you find of this last should fit in your bike. Regards.,JM,maikelnai@yahoo.com Re: Cota 172,Thursday 18-Jan-2001 05:41:49,,Hi Geoff look for in montesaweb.com; there are tech for all cotas (172 too of course). Regards. ,MAC, Spark Arresteor for '76 Montesa Cota 348,Monday 1-Jan-2001 14:43:40,,Just bought a '76 Montesa Cota 348. Need a spark arrestor. Any ideas?,Steve,sparker245@aol.com HELP WITH ID OF BIKE,Thursday 21-Dec-2000 10:32:56,,HI GUYS I FIGURED IF ANY ONE CAN HELP WITH INFO. ON A TRIALS BIKE IT WOULD BE HERE.I JUST FOUND A OLD TRIALS BIKE.THE SEAT SAYS ISLO.IT IS AN ORANGE/RED BIKE.MAYBE A 250? S/N IS TM7 4084.I KNOW THIS IS A COTA SITE BUT ANY HELP WOULD BE HELPFUL.ANY LINKS? THANKS A BUNCH FOR ANY HELP.,JACK,QUICKSLOTS@AOL.COM Re: HELP WITH ID OF BIKE,Saturday 23-Dec-2000 09:23:08,,Jack The Islo Trialmaster is from Mexico. There is a picture and small piece of info on this bike in the Mick Andrews Book of Trials. American Dealer Bill Grapevine commissioned the Giant Mexican Moto-Islo group to build a trials bike. He sold a quantity in the States and the model was still in their brochure in 1976. Sorry I can't help you more. Jim,jim, Re: HELP WITH ID OF BIKE,Wednesday 27-Dec-2000 10:53:17,,Bill Grapevine can be reached at P.O. box 76 Beaumont KS 67012 Bill is also the host of the Pastmasters vintage trial held every year in June at Fredonia KS where you will find several of these bikes. 2001 will be the 10th annual event. see you there Rick,rick,cantrellrick@hotmail.com clutch,Saturday 16-Dec-2000 12:40:52,,Do all montesa's have the same cluth mechanism ? Why does the small bronze part inside the casing which pushes the cluth plates in wear away ? Where can I get a new one or a reproduction one ? ,,wiztit@hotmail.com Re: clutch,Thursday 28-Dec-2000 23:28:16,,I don't know how many Montesas use this type arrangement but I'd guess that an improperly adjusted cable would contribute to this brass button wearing away. Make sure there's a couple of mm free play at your lever when the engine is at operating temp. I've noticed the same wear on my 247 and 348. What's worse is wear on the part the button pushes against. A good industrial machine shop should be able to make up a new button for you. While your at it have a bunch made up and sell them! Also I think it doesn't hurt to change your primary oil often. I do it after every wet day riding as water finds it's way in around my 348's clutch release arm and maybe the shift shaft. Time for new seals. Good luck Erwin,Erwin,hwy51guzzi@hotmail.com Re: clutch,Saturday 3-Mar-2001 21:43:23,,You've adjusted the clutch freeplay to tight. Yes new parts are available. John Rocky Mountain Montesa,,rmmhaberbosch@bendnet.com clutch,Saturday 16-Dec-2000 12:40:39,,Do all montesa's have the same cluth mechanism ? Why does the small bronze part inside the casing which pushes the cluth plates in wear away ? Where can I get a new one or a reprodution one ? ,,wiztit@hotmail.com Re: clutch,Monday 18-Dec-2000 01:38:15,,Almost all Montesa models use the same type of clutch actuating device. Many of the mx models used a steel plunger instead of the bronze unit. Excessive wear can be caused by not having enough free play in the cable which allows the plunger to wear against the 3 finger actuator. I stock the new brass plunger as well as the actuators. Cheers Jared ,Southwest Montesa,vr250@swlink.net NEW SITE OF MONTESA COTA,Saturday 16-Dec-2000 12:13:04,,Now you can visit my site. All the Cota's Montesa production with pics & technical data http://geocities.com/cotamontesa/ ,, Montessa Cota,Thursday 14-Dec-2000 18:36:00,,Does anyone no any good web site's for looking at montessa cota's or where I could get hold of any posters.,Adam Reavill,a.reavill1@ntlworld.com Re: Montessa Cota,Saturday 16-Dec-2000 12:05:16,,You can visit my site: http://geocities.com/cotamontesa/ ,, 247 forks,Thursday 14-Dec-2000 13:32:01,,I am currently restoring my '78 cota 247 on taking the front axle out I found that the two pinch bolts had been over tightened and the bottom part of the alloy fork bottoms casting has snapped clean through. Is it best to try and get this welded ? if so what sort of alloy is it?(mazzocchi forks) or should I try and find a new part ? thankyou WILL,Will Stafford,wiztit@hotmail.com '83 Cota 349 For Sale,Saturday 9-Dec-2000 16:40:30,,1983 Cota 349 Rebuilt Engine by SW Montesa new rear shocks rebuilt front end new fenders new paint allround.Allnew parts are stock and I have some additional parts ie Headlight etc. This bike has never competed and is very fresh a twin shock rider's dream. Bike located in central California $1500 shipped contact me for pics and more info. ,,jonjon@caltel.com Re: '83 Cota 349 SOLD,Tuesday 2-Jan-2001 16:48:23,,Bike is sold,, Cota port timing specifications,Thursday 7-Dec-2000 17:41:17,,I'm trying to find port specifications for the 247/348/349 Cota cylinders. I'd prefer to have them in degrees (opening and closing) but if someone can supply port heights and a connecting rod center-to-center length I can convert to degrees with that information. Please drop me a note at mmoore@eurospares.com if you can help with this info or know someone who can. thanks Michael,Michael Moore,mmoore@eurospares.com ,Thursday 7-Dec-2000 11:45:59,,,ryan, ,Sunday 3-Dec-2000 12:49:30,,recherche moyeu de roue avant pour montesa 49 ann�e 74-75. Merci d'envoyer un mail.,robert charles,ROBERTCHARL@aol.com cota 349 1982 model,Monday 27-Nov-2000 17:00:29,,wanted: a stock kickstand assembly for a 1982 349 cota. any help appreciated.,brian,wilsonwash@iquest.net back tire,Sunday 26-Nov-2000 13:58:23,,looking for a back tire for my cota 25 anyone have any ideas it is a 2.5-15 pirelli m14 any help would be appreciated. holland,peter,p.j.m. verheijen@hccnet.nl Re: back tire,Saturday 2-Dec-2000 15:22:11,,Peter You will be VERY lucky to find a Pirelli ML14 especially for the faster wearing rear tyre. I had the same problem finding a 17" for my Cota 123. Try a Wanted advert in a motorcycle journal. Bultaco have just started to produce a 'Mini Trial' model and I noted that it has 15" and 16" Wheels so I presume the tyres will be suitable albeit modern. Malcolm Rathmell is the UK importer contact him to find your nearest dealer. Sorry I couldn't help more. Jimmy ,,jwh@nascr.net Re: back tire,Saturday 3-Mar-2001 21:46:30,,Go to a Yamaha dealership and order a tire for the front of a GT80. It is the correct size and configuration. The Pirelli tire is no longer available.,,rmmhaberbosch@bendnet.com Cota 348,Wednesday 22-Nov-2000 22:00:37,,I just bought a Cota 348. I'm currently trying to get it running right. I completly disassembled the carb and soaked it in cleaner. set the point gap at 15 and put in new plug. It now runs but rough and is popping back thru the carb. I'm looking for any suggestions.Please help Thank You!,Glenn,glsmoto @ aol.com pegs,Sunday 19-Nov-2000 13:48:41,,has anyone out there lowered the pegs on a 348? if so how was brake pedal repositioned? moved? different lever? etc. thanks rick ,, Cota 349 premix/oil volumes etc ,Thursday 16-Nov-2000 05:53:18,,On behalf of my cousin I'm trying to find out more information on the Cota 349. Can anyone recommend a pre-mix ratio (using Silkolene Comp-2 pre-mix at the moment) and the volume of oil /grade used in the gearbox. Also does any one know where there might be an on-line manual which can be down loaded? Cheers Ian ,Ian,i_barratt@hotmail.com HELP!!!!!!!!,Tuesday 7-Nov-2000 10:13:50,,I need a fuel tank air filter(cleaner) and the top to the carburetor! Please mail me...,Arne Inge Sesseng Nordfjell,aisn@libertysurf.no Re: HELP!!!!!!!!,Thursday 16-Nov-2000 07:57:24,,to fit what?,,cantrellrick@hotmail.com Change of E-mail adress,Saturday 28-Oct-2000 09:12:18,,Hello fellow Montesa nuts. If any of you have tred to e-mail me or acess my page you've been out of luck but have no fear I'm still hear! I have no page anymore cost to much so now i'm on Juno. Will get a page up some day. My new and working adress for mail is 44Dwarf@4m.net I still have some parts but S.W. is your best bet theses days. If they don't try me. I've got lots of trany gears. (I don't know why!) Tony Leary,Tony Leary,44dwarf@4m.net 1983 Cota 349 - For Sale,Monday 23-Oct-2000 15:22:53,,1983 Cota 349 Rebuilt Engine by SW Montesa new rear shocks rebuilt front end new fenders new paint allround.All new parts are stock and I have some additional parts ie Headlight etc. This bike has never competed and is very fresh a twin shock rider's dream. $1800 or offers contact me for pics and more info.,John,jonjon@caltel.com Re: 1983 Cota 349 - For Sale,Saturday 28-Oct-2000 11:52:08,,Price change - Now $1500.00 Must sell to make space for newer machine,John,jonjon@caltel.com Re: Cota 349 - $1300,Saturday 23-Dec-2000 21:16:06,,,, Re: 1983 Cota 349 - For Sale,Tuesday 2-Jan-2001 16:46:07,,Bike is sold as of Jan 02 2001,jonjon, Re: 1983 Cota 349 - SOLD,Tuesday 2-Jan-2001 16:46:53,,Bike is sold as of Jan 02 2001,jonjon, montesa enduros,Saturday 14-Oct-2000 15:47:11,,any one know a good site covering 360 h7 enduros parts or pictures,dave,david.evans17@btinternet.com Re: montesa enduros,Monday 23-Oct-2000 14:29:02,,Hola soy un chico de Leon Espa�a tengo una montesa enduro 360 h7 me gustaria recibir informacion sobre la moto manual libro de taller despiece etc. Si sabes de algo de esto no dejes de comunicarmelo. Gracias,Gustavo Gonzalez Villoria,gustavogonzalez@usuarios.retecal.es MINI COTA ON EBAY,Thursday 5-Oct-2000 12:56:39,,just say this and thought you cota guys might find it interesting http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=459329379,JOHN LAURENT,kt250@cillnet.com Suspension Trouble,Tuesday 3-Oct-2000 04:06:10,, The suspension on my Cota 248 is very stiff and when it is compressed it does not spring right back. It is very jerky (not smooth) and it leaks mucky/oily stuff from the seals. How can improve the suspention performance?? Thanks Gordon Douglas,Gordon Douglas, Re: Suspension Trouble,Friday 6-Oct-2000 22:18:48,,If you're talking about the forks it sounds like the damper pistons are binding. For some reason they swell and will seize in the fork tubes. Given that you're oozing grunge from your seals it's time to disassemble and clean the forks anyway. Jared (Southwest Montesa) has damper pistons very reasonably priced seals too. I did my 247 and 348 forks and it made a world of difference. If you need more information email me. Good luck Erwin,Erwin,hwy51guzzi@hotmail.com Cota 247,Sunday 1-Oct-2000 19:03:55,,Have a 247 Trials unsure of the year Eng No. 21m is this '68 onwards? The bike has an all in one tank and seat- have never seen one with this design - it also has a very large seat for a trials bike. Anyone offer info / help. Thanks ,Darren,no.money@freeuk.com Re: Cota 247,Saturday 2-Dec-2000 10:41:58,,Darren if you haven't already e-mail Frankie from the cota page and he can tell ya you can check out his project 68 on his website as well. I have a 68 247 complete but need some parts or may possibly sell for parts. What are ya doing with yours?? Let me know if ya want to buy sell or trade some parts. Thanx Jim...,Jim,rosemontshell@inetmail.att.net Re: Cota 247,Sunday 21-Jan-2001 19:35:59,, sounds like mine.i have a 75 247 T .it also has a longer than normal seat arrangement,mike,aermachi@hotmail.com broken gear pullers,Wednesday 20-Sep-2000 15:58:44,,I have broken three gear pullers trying to get the primary gear off the crank shaft in order to change an oil seal for a cota 248. Any ideas ?,Bertie Grotrian,Bertie@hiremarquees.co.uk Re: broken gear pullers,Wednesday 20-Sep-2000 18:00:47,,Bertie Most of the pullers you buy from autoparts stores or Walmart type stores are not heavy duty enough. Try renting one from an autoparts store(usually the ones they rent out ARE heavy duty). It only cost a few bucks. Or you could take the engine to a machine shop and let them do it for you. The down side to that is most machine shops have a minimum fee around here it's $16-20. Ouch! Tony,Tony,LATC1956@aol.com Re: broken gear pullers,Thursday 21-Sep-2000 02:40:39,,An automotive application tool will be your best bet. I use an idler arm puller that has a bolt thru it that you can tighten to keep it from spreading apart when applying pressure. On occasions when tight the application of heat on the gear will allow it to pop off. A last resort is smacking the end of the puller with a good size mallet after heating the gear. Don't stand in front of the gear when doing any of these operations as sometimes the gear can come off with a vengence!,Jared,vr250@swlink.net Re: Re: broken gear pullers,Saturday 23-Sep-2000 04:30:24,,Thanks for the help. The local bike shop broke their puller(one of the three) so I worked on mine with a grinder to get a good fit and after several attempts and some heat it popped off.,Bertie, Why?,Wednesday 20-Sep-2000 09:25:46,,I can't find any information on Cota 248's. Why is this? Is it because they are not as good as 247's etc?? I would like to find a manual or a parts source in the UK but no one seems to know anything about 248's. Please help!!,Gordon, Re: Why?,Thursday 21-Sep-2000 02:51:42,,Gordon The 248 was not that popular of a model. Being a sleeved down 348 it was built to satisfy the requirements of some country's law's that prohibit a larger cc engine to be used by young drivers. (I'm not sure what that age was) It is not that they were any better or worse than the Cota 247. I do know that there a number of them in Japan and France. I have repo owners parts manuals for the 248.,JB,vr250@swlink.net Hi friends,Monday 18-Sep-2000 11:05:37,,Hi friends,Nicolette, Re: Hi friends,Friday 12-Jan-2001 16:03:32,,WHO AND WHAT ??,, Montesa 248,Saturday 16-Sep-2000 15:06:09,,I have just bought a Montesa 248. I have come to motorbike trials through Mountain Bike trials. Could any one give some tips on bike setup or suggest a website for info on my 248?? Thanks!!,Gordon,gordon.douglas@freeuk.com Re: Montesa 248,Friday 6-Oct-2000 22:23:21,,Hi Gordon Look at the Parts Suppliers link on this website and click on Southwest Montesa. A great source for information and parts. The other places are good too. Erwin,Erwin,hwy51guzzi@hotmail.com Wanted - Montessa Cota 247 Exhaust,Friday 15-Sep-2000 11:23:18,, I am looking for an exhaust although just front pipe would do for a 1978/79 247 cota. Any UK sources out there ? Thanks,,martinp@hager.co.uk Hi friends,Thursday 14-Sep-2000 13:03:35,,Hi friends,Frosty, Cota Tire Size,Tuesday 12-Sep-2000 08:15:52,,I need to replace the front tire on my 349. The existing size is 21x2.75. I have a 21x3.00 that I can use. Can someone tell me what effect the larger size will have on handling etc. Thanks Ed,Ed Wrzosek, Identification advise,Monday 11-Sep-2000 14:41:51,,Can anyone please advise me on any identifiying marks and serial numbers I could look out for when considering buying a "84" 349/348 cota when did the 348 takover from the 349 or vise versa? I would like to know that the engine and frame are the original items ? is this at all possible ? Any help or advise from you fellow cota owners would be much appreciated. Alternative E-mail address: sales@bellcopiers.co.uk ,Paul,pjordan.home@virgin.net Re: Identification advise,Monday 11-Sep-2000 23:43:13,,Paul As far as i am aware the Cota349 ceased production in 1983 and the 330 took over all 348 and 349 have a prefix of 51M if you click on the model gallery link within this site it gives you all that information.,les,lar2000@one.net.au Re: Identification advise,Wednesday 13-Sep-2000 01:01:47,,Paul The Cota 348's are from 1976 to 1979. Cota 349's were 1980 to 1983. There were some late 83's that were designated 350's but they were basically the same. As was stated 348's and 349's were all 51M. The Cota 330 twin shocker and 335 Mono were 61M. Since all of the 349's are distinct it's easy to tell which year they are by certain features. JB/SW ,Jared,vr250@swlink.net WANTED: Cota 123 or 247,Thursday 31-Aug-2000 22:05:16,206.163.49.34 writes,I'm looking for a Cota 123 or 247 in good running condition. Please respond directly to me. Thank you.,Kit Vercella,vercella@bendnet.com MONTESA COTA 247 RACING SPANISH CHAMPION ,Thursday 31-Aug-2000 15:38:10,195.76.76.200 writes,Now in Todo Trial Clasico you can see a test about the spanish classic trials champion motorcicle a racing prepared Cota 247. I hope you like it and you sing in my guestbook (in foro section) www.todotrial.com Make sure to press english translator button. Regards. ,Horacio,todotrial@todotrial.com Need help to install a new piston,Thursday 31-Aug-2000 03:42:15,203.12.144.232 writes,i need to remove and install a new piston & rings & cannot get the bottom part of the engine off. If anybody can tell me how to take it apart or if there is any other way of removing the piston it would be greatly appericated.,Rob,nellie@rivernet.com.au Re: Need help to install a new piston,Thursday 31-Aug-2000 03:43:42,203.12.144.232 writes,,, Re: Need help to install a new piston,Thursday 31-Aug-2000 21:52:16,165.154.163.38 writes, if you are referring to the barrel it is held in place by socket head bolts at the bootom of the holes in the barrel(7mm i think) This is the case on my 123 its probably the same on yours.,Gerry w,carger@auracom.com 247/348 Cota,Wednesday 30-Aug-2000 13:24:06,206.170.175.33 writes,Am considering buying a 247 or 348 Vintage Montesa .Would like feedback as to which will be the best choice of the two as to rider ease maintenance parts upkeep reliability get the driff? Just honest opinions no B.S. Thanks ahead of time for any answeres.,chuck,chuckc@foothill.net Looking for a twin shock montesa cota 123,Tuesday 29-Aug-2000 14:13:17,62.252.32.5 writes,Looking for a twin shock montesa cota 123 or 247 for restoration. Runner or not. UK southwest region. ,,pjordan.home@virgin.net Re: Looking for a twin shock montesa cota 123,Wednesday 13-Sep-2000 16:33:18,,I have a 1981 248 which was running ok 'till a few days ago when it started to burn oil. I have taken the top off and the rings are fine so it is probably the oil seals. I am alittle nervous of stripping the motor much futher..... so if you want to .... make me an offer ...the bike is in Wiltshire Tel 01747 830380,bertie, Early model cota mono shock,Monday 28-Aug-2000 16:36:04,205.188.199.27 writes, Looking for a late 80's or early 90's cota mono shock in any condition for a winter resteration prodgect. THANKS,Patrick Bowers,PABOWERS1@AOL.COM Re: Early model cota mono shock,Sunday 19-Nov-2000 10:09:20,,hi i have a montessa 348 cota and it runs extreemly well and has done scince i purchased it. Now i am considering selling it in order to help finance a new car i am not sure where you are in the world but i am in england. Yours sincerely william robinson,,robdevon@globalnet.co.uk cota 349 '83,Monday 28-Aug-2000 06:39:24,203.101.37.249 writes,My 349 runs exttremely rich have installed a new needle jet(106)the one i replaced was a 107 and the main is a (145) the needle is set in the middle needle groove strangely enough the engine seems to run cleaner with the choke on. The carby is a 27mm Amal. Thanks for your help Regards Les,les rowell,lar2000@one.net.au Re: cota 349 '83,Thursday 31-Aug-2000 00:20:38,209.210.168.239 writes,Les To make sure the choke is engaged the choke rod will be exposed in the up position choke rod out of sight choke is off. The lever positioning can be misleading. On some Amal carbs you pull the lever up to engage the choke.,SW,vr250@swlink.net front forks,Saturday 26-Aug-2000 18:42:42,24.192.0.14 writes,I have an 80 model cota 200 the 179cc model. I have recently bent the front forks to an unrepairable state. If there is any one in australia who can help me aquire a pair of front forks or can give information on whether a pair of readily available forks may bolt on can they please send me an email to the above address. Regards Psybe,Psybe,psybe16@yahoo.com.au cota 349,Saturday 26-Aug-2000 03:54:40,203.101.37.253 writes,I have recently installed a Mikuni carb on my 349 can someone give me the jetting specs for the 27mm Mikuni thanks heaps Les,les,lar2000@one.net.au Re: cota 349,Sunday 27-Aug-2000 15:15:04,209.210.169.183 writes,VM 26 Main jet-115 pilot jet-30 needle-5F21 needle jet-0-2 slide-1.0,, Cota 349 timing sets,Wednesday 23-Aug-2000 04:15:13,203.101.37.249 writes,Would someone be kind enough to tell me the timing settings for the 349 Cota i presume they are the same as the 348! wich as i understand is .0172" BTDC and .015" points gap i am having terrible trouble with the engine running very rich.,Les,lar2000@one.net.au Re: Cota 349 timing sets,Friday 25-Aug-2000 00:10:45,209.210.168.3 writes,Les Timing specs for the 348 are 3mm BTDC The 349 is 3.5mm BTDC Past experience with the 349 set at this timing specs makes it somwhat "lumpy" at idle. 3mm or even less smooths it out. Rich running can also be a sign of worn needle and needle jet a common Amal problem. ,Jared,vr250@wlink.net cota 247 breaker points,Monday 21-Aug-2000 14:11:58,155.239.84.228 writes,the parts catalogue for my 247 lists the breaker points as #mot 662001. Unfortunately there is not a Montesa dealer in South Africa. Is there a British or Japanese equivalent.,roger,romelw@hotmail.com cota 248,Monday 21-Aug-2000 13:58:53,212.159.1.4 writes,I have just acquired an 81 cota 248 in the UK. Can any one tell me the esential differences with the 247. Are the piston rings the same? ,Bertie Grotrian,Bertie@hiremarquees.co.uk Re: cota 248,Friday 25-Aug-2000 00:15:58,209.210.168.3 writes,Bertie The Cota 248 share hardly anything with the 247. The engine is a sleeved down 348 with a different piston assembly than the 247. Most of bike is based upon the Cota 348. Jared ,Jared,vr250@swlink.net Re: Re: cota 248,Sunday 27-Aug-2000 13:56:05,212.159.1.3 writes,Most of the frame and tank look like a 349. Does it share the same parts but wirh a sleeved 348 motor with 6 gears?,Bertie, Re: Re: Re: cota 248,Sunday 27-Aug-2000 15:16:51,209.210.169.183 writes,That is correct.,Jared,vr250@swlink.net Re: Re: Re: Re: cota 248,Wednesday 6-Sep-2000 16:17:58,,Thanks for that info. If the engine needed rebuilding would it make sense to make it a 349 ?,Bertie Grotrian, Re:cota 248,Friday 8-Sep-2000 23:23:50,,Bertie Don't know if it would be worth the expense. You would have to change the liner exhaust pipe carb modify the head and cylinder to achieve the performance level of the 349. Jared,Jared,vr250@swlink.net cota 247 kickstart shaft,Saturday 12-Aug-2000 06:11:35,196.2.45.139 writes,the kickstart shaft on my 247 has pulled out of the c clip twice necessatating a complete stripdown of the motor - can anyone offer suggestions as to why this should happen - i suspect incorrect kickstart return spring operation,roger,romelw@hotmail Re: cota 247 kickstart shaft,Sunday 13-Aug-2000 04:22:56,209.210.168.83 writes,Make sure you have enough freeplay in kickstarter shaft when the motor is together. You should be able to take the end of the shaft and move it back and forth aprox 1/8" If there is no freeplay this can cause a problem. You can also have it to loose as well make sure the endplay shim is in position on the end of the shaft. The c-clip get's tired as well you can take the shaft down to your local import auto store (BAP around here) and get a new c-clip that will work on the kick shaft.,Jared,vr250@swlink.net Oily Plug?,Monday 7-Aug-2000 20:43:51,155.229.70.9 writes,My 349 Cota sat all week and I had inadvertently left the fuel valve on. Today I try to start it and I get a fouled plug. Before I start the bike I always tip it over a few times to keep the fuel mixed and roll it back and forth in gear to get things oiled and ready. I have drained fuel cleaned plug mixed fuel cleaned plug cleaned carb etc. etc. and am now wondering if the problem isn't more serious as the last batch of fuel I mixed at 75:1 or leaner just to see if it was oil residue but still...........NO START. Electrically the bike is sound and there is spark at the plug. Any ideas? ,John,jonjon@caltel.com Re: Oily Plug?,Saturday 12-Aug-2000 16:33:04,216.229.87.74 writes,have had same problem with 348 believe it occurs when hauling bike and float moves allowing fuel into crankcase. have resorted to pulling bike very embarrassing when friend on rl suzuki does honors. suggest pulling or kicking forever then when it starts always shut off gas and run fuel level down or out before killing bike next time. also check shutoff c--- to insure it works properly. we probably should replace float seat and needle also. am interested to know if you find another problem if so let us know here. rick ,rick, Re: Oily Plug?,Saturday 12-Aug-2000 16:47:03,216.229.87.74 writes,thought of one other thing although probably not your problem i have a 348 rathmell that had a bad crankseal on clutch side allowing fluid into crankcase. this made carb adjusting almost impossible and oil fouled plugs a common thing. discovered this after observing fact of putting in 10 oz getting out 6 oz when changing fluid. a good shop will have pressure test tools to determine this. but strongly suggest you make sure you are not just extremely flooded in bottom end. rick ,r again,cantrellrick@hotmail.com Re: Oily Plug?,Sunday 13-Aug-2000 04:15:12,209.210.168.83 writes,John I don't know if you got your bike going yet but if did not and have you have tried everything you might want to check the starting jet in the carb. In the float bowls of the Mk2 Amals there is very tiny jet located in the well where the choke tube goes in to. If this jet is blocked the bike will not start not even a pop! One way to check this is to remove the carb and squirt raw fuel mix into the intake manifold kick it and if the motor pops then you know that the starter jet is clogged. Believe me I went down this road before!,Jared,vr250@swlink.net back fender cota 25,Monday 7-Aug-2000 04:11:21,193.153.213.169 writes,looking for a back fender for my cota 25. Any help would be apreciated Santiago de Compostela. Spain,juan,juant@igatel.net Tank restoration for '83 349,Sunday 6-Aug-2000 14:55:17,155.229.70.9 writes,Hi folks Can anyone provide me with the procedure for restoring my tank/seat assembly? It is really starting to bubble and has completely lost its shine. As always thanks in advance John,john,jonjon@caltel.com Re: Tank restoration for '83 349,Sunday 13-Aug-2000 04:06:08,209.210.168.83 writes,John Same thing happens on the 80 349's as well. On the 83 349's it is a clear coat sprayed right over the red plastic. On the one I had I wet sanded the clear coat completly off the plastic actually had a pinkish hue to it when done but when I sprayed it with clearcoat it turned the original shade of red. You have to go easy when spraying over the bare plastic so as to not let the clearcoat run.,Jared,vr250@swlink.net Re: Re: Tank restoration for '83 349,Monday 21-Aug-2000 01:56:15,203.101.37.249 writes,I read with interest that you sprayed a clearcoat over the prepared polymer tank would you be kind enough to inform me as to what sort of clearcoat you used and type of thinners also.,Les,lar2000@one.net.au Re: Re: Re: Tank restoration for '83 349,Friday 25-Aug-2000 00:19:28,209.210.168.3 writes,I used an Enamel clear with a catalyst with many light coats to keep it from running since there is not much "bite" on the unprimered plastic. Jared ,Jared,vr250@swlink.net Cota 349 rear shocks,Friday 4-Aug-2000 23:48:01,206.128.192.142 writes,I would like to know what kind of oil can be used on the rear BETOR shocks on my Cota 349? Can I use ATF (automatic transmission fluid)? How much is the capacity in c.c. or fluid ounces? Thanks for any help! Edmundo,Edmundo Sasnon,parabellum@cwp.net.pa Cota 349 long term storage,Friday 4-Aug-2000 00:27:13,206.128.192.142 writes,I would like to know from the experts on how to prepare my Cota 349 (1983) for a very long term storage. I am restoring my bike to like new condition and plan to display it inside my house studio. Do not plan to run the bike for several years. What procedures do I need to make for the cilinder trans forks etc for long term storage? Edmundo.,Edmundo,parabellum@cwp.net.pa Trailer Plans,Thursday 3-Aug-2000 09:04:03,195.92.194.21 writes,Does anybody know where I can get plans or drawings for a two bike trailer. I have managed to aquire an Indespension box trailer axle wheels etc and have access to welding facilities. Thanks for your help. John ,John,john.cane@u.genie.co.uk carburetor cota 348,Saturday 29-Jul-2000 16:11:13,155.239.84.150 writes,cota 348 - the carburetor on my 348 is very worn and i would like to replace the amal with another make - any suggestions,roger ,romelw@hotmail.com Re: carburetor cota 348,Monday 31-Jul-2000 13:19:38,209.210.246.43 writes,Roger The Mk2 Amal as used on the 348-49 is usually a decent carb if you change the needle and needle jet and possibly the slide. A VM 26 Mikuni works well (I have the jetting specs if you need them) And a lates 70's early eighties Delorto works very well with slight mods. (I have one on my 348),Jared,vr250@swlink.net exhoust,Friday 28-Jul-2000 06:48:09,195.114.241.104 writes,hey there montesa lovers (i quess) i need a exhoust for my montesa cappra 250 VB for a reasonable price so if you have something in "the old barn" please let me know thanx ,elmar,mandala@soneramail.nl Re: exhoust,Thursday 11-Jan-2001 20:34:28,,I have several of these in good condition. You can call my shop at 724-639-9514. Thanks Perry,, exhoust,Friday 28-Jul-2000 06:46:46,195.114.241.104 writes,hey there montesa lovers (i quess) i need a exhoust for my montesa cappra 250 VB,elmar,mandala@soneramail.nl Left-Hand Shift for Cota 247's,Thursday 27-Jul-2000 11:31:20,207.137.104.23 writes,Can anyone tell me which year the Cota 247 switched over to a left-hand shift? Thanks!,Dave Giles,dave.giles@mitchell.com Re: Left-Hand Shift for Cota 247's,Monday 31-Jul-2000 13:13:43,209.210.246.43 writes,Dave Cota 247's went to left side shift on the 1974 model.,Jared,vr250@swlink.net Cota Airbox (UK),Wednesday 26-Jul-2000 08:07:35,212.134.24.191 writes,I am looking for a complete air filter box assembly fot a 1981 Cota248(?). This belongs to mu girlfriends uncle and I think it is a 247 and not a 248 please correct me if I am wrong. I am in the uk so please get in touch either on the board or by e-mail. John PS anyone know of a Yamaha TY/TY250 site?,John Cane,john.cane@u.genie.co.uk Re: Cota Airbox (UK),Monday 31-Jul-2000 13:11:39,209.210.246.43 writes,John Although I can't help you on the airbox situation there is a 248 Cota it is based upon the 348 model but is sleeved down to a 247cc size. ,Jared,vr250@swlink.net WANTED 123 COTA SHOCKS,Tuesday 25-Jul-2000 22:10:04,165.154.252.77 writes, i need some 13.5 shocks must be straight and oil tight thats all i ask!! for a amateur rider Gerry w,Gerry W,carger@auracom.com COTA 123 EARLY OWNERS MANUAL WANTED,Saturday 22-Jul-2000 17:14:38,212.90.32.10 writes,This manual is A4 size and has a colour picture of bike on the front. It has a grey frame and thereis a red background. Must be in very good condition. Thanks,Jimmy,jwh@nascr.net kickstarter,Thursday 20-Jul-2000 17:14:55,216.229.87.93 writes,does anyone know of a kickstarter from another bike that would fit a 348? it could fold at spline shaft and be closer to barrel also longer would be good. thanks rick,rick, front tire for montesa cota 25,Sunday 2-Jul-2000 12:17:02,12.77.253.62 writes,looking for a front tire for my cota 25. anyone have any ideas? it is a 2x16 pirelli m14 any help would be appreciated ,Mark Leatherman,FMF_pilot85@hotmail.com Year of my Cota 247,Saturday 24-Jun-2000 02:29:53,198.142.200.249 writes,Can any one help identify the year by this frame# M2110308 ?? I live in Tasmania and I am also looking for parts. ,roscoe,opossum@mpx.com.au Re: Year of my Cota 247,Friday 9-Feb-2001 17:28:45,,Your cota is a 1975 model there were 4400 made.Your bike is listed as a cota 247 "Ulf Karlsson". who ever that is?,ROGER,ROGERDALE360@EXCITE.COM Rear Shocks on '83 349 Cota,Tuesday 20-Jun-2000 21:52:04,209.101.254.108 writes,2 questions; First whats the best fuel mix to run in this machine? 2nd what will the handling be like if I move the rear shock lower mounts to the forward apeture on the swing arm? ,John,jonjon@caltel.com Re: Rear Shocks on '83 349 Cota,Thursday 22-Jun-2000 04:29:14,209.210.168.63 writes,John A ratio of around 40 to 1 works well. Regarding moving the lower shock mount I would be inclined to leave the mounts alone and concentrate on getting a proper pair of shocks with the correct spring rate and dampning qualities. Most of the twin shock classes I have seen have put an emphasis on basic trials skill's anyway's and not suspension travel. You will never be able to get a twin shock setup to even come close to a monoshock's rebound and compression qualities no matter how far you move the shocks up! Stick with what you got and refine it for your bike's intended purpose. The 83' is one of the best twin shocks you can get so it's an excellent starting point. Of course that's my opinion I could be wrong!,Jared,vr250@swlink.net Re: Re: Rear Shocks on '83 349 Cota,Saturday 8-Jul-2000 09:25:33,196.15.178.11 writes,Jeez Jared. ALL the 349's were dogs if they weren't trying to ignore steering input they were cracking frames and slipping clutches. The 348 is a very different story. I digress. leave the shockmounts alone. Apart from depreciating the value of the bike you'll also risk GBH (grevious (sp?)) bodily harm from enthusiasts. You still got those (sotto voice) pink 348 mudguards? All the best Tim,Tim Fulcher,timjfulcher@yahoo.com Re: Re: Re: Rear Shocks on '83 349 Cota,Sunday 9-Jul-2000 02:23:27,209.210.168.176 writes,I will agree that the early 349 were not the best of Cota's. But the 83" 349 was a completly different kettle of fish! There is a world of difference between an 80 model and an 83 ask anyone who has ridden both models. ,Jared,vr250@swlink.net The need to be recognised,Saturday 17-Jun-2000 05:27:44,202.92.89.2 writes,It's a great site full of info but what about those 1990 owners of a Cota 172 I brought mine in 1978 and it still goes! How come we are omitted from site? Mine is 8 bikes off the last one ever made.,Marty,mtlewis@goconnect.com.au Re: The need to be recognised,Saturday 17-Jun-2000 23:46:44,165.154.252.87 writes, i understand what you mean but Frankie(creator of this site) relies on the people who love all cota's to contribute stuff if they can. So what do you have??? Gerry.,Gerry,carger@auracom.com Re: The need to be recognised,Saturday 17-Jun-2000 23:59:08,12.34.180.8 writes,Marty Sorry to exclude you but I just don't have much info on that particular model. Gerry is right! I am simply a organizer of info that is sent to me. The site started out as pretty much a 348 site and that was only due to the info that I had and info that Jared Bates shared with me. Know look at how it has grown. I would be glad to post anything that you've got (pictures) or simply any info you can tell me about your model. It is only with the help of others that I am able to keep this site going. If you have anything to add please send it to me soon as I am getting ready to post a new revised site (now that I actually have a little spare time). Sorry to all for the delays in updating the site. To Gerry: Thanks for the magazines!! I will send the magazines back on Monday. It was great to read the test reports and I'm sure everyone else will enjoy them!! Thanks ,Frankie,solder_me@hotmail.com cota 349 swingarm,Saturday 10-Jun-2000 15:32:43,206.28.244.70 writes,wanted cota 349 swingarm,rick,cantrellrick@hotmail.com 123 cota,Tuesday 23-May-2000 19:56:35,165.154.252.100 writes,is there some way to set the timing on my 123Cota without going to the expense of buying a dial gauge???? Thanks Gerry the cheap canadian.,carger@auracom.com,carger@auracom.com Cota 349 Flywheel Cover,Tuesday 23-May-2000 14:41:55,62.252.133.158 writes,Whenever I ride my 349 water gets inside the flywheel cover. When I remove the cover quite alot of water drops out. I seal it carefully with silicon and seal the grommet for the ignition wires. Any ideas where it's getting in? ,Steve Woodward,stephen_woodward@yahoo.com Re: Cota 349 Flywheel Cover,Wednesday 24-May-2000 21:17:37,199.181.174.158 writes,If the 349 has the vent in the case like the 348 you might try pressurizing it slightly through the hole and listen or look for leaks. Soapy water around the mating surface will bubble if air is escaping. I use clear RTV on mine and it is watertight. I've had the engine completely underwater several times and it didn't miss a beat. When applying RTV around the perimiter of the cover run the bead to the inside of the screw holes to seal out the screws. It should work. Good luck,Erwin, Re: Cota 349 Flywheel Cover,Saturday 8-Jul-2000 09:36:29,196.15.178.11 writes,What you've got is typical of the marque. It's condensation. Add a breather pipe and it will improve the situation. Tim ,Tim Fulcher,timjfulcher@yahoo.com 349 Cota Service Data,Sunday 21-May-2000 13:23:19,195.92.67.36 writes,Please can someone advise me on the service set-up for my 1982 Cota 349. Specifically the correct grade of plug oil levels and grades two stroke mix points gap and timing. Also how can you tell if you need to replace crankcase oil seals. Thanks,John Hughes (UK),Johnhughes@counterfeitiron.freeserve.co.uk Re: 349 Cota Service Data,Saturday 8-Jul-2000 09:46:48,196.15.178.11 writes,John Champion N9Y (I think). Oils (careful here thinking back 15 yrs) normal multigrade will suffice. 2S a 30:1 ratio is normal if you use commercially availible 2S (ie NOT Bel-Ray or Castrol TTS - in that case you're PROBABLY safe at 45:1 - the more contempary oils are MUCH better than those availible at the time). Levels I can't remember. I think Jared Bates should be able to help you there. Timing there should be a mark on the stator to help you standard is fine. Points gap refer Jared. Changing seals is simplicity itself (IF you can get the the f%^^& driveside gear off the crank - this can be tricky and dangerous). The seals are in carriers. Symptoms of buggered seals are reluctance to start and idle but runs fine above 2000 rpm. HTH Tim,Tim Fulcher,timjfulcher@yahoo.com Cota 349 torque spec,Monday 15-May-2000 10:17:27,192.102.13.127 writes,Hi Just finishing puting my Cota back together. Can any one tell me what the torque setting for the flywheel nut and the drive sprocket nut is? Thanks Ed,Ed Wrzosek,ed.wrzosek@agra.com Re: Cota 349 torque spec,Tuesday 16-May-2000 18:15:51,208.203.102.90 writes,87 ft lbs on the magneto nut 55 lbs on the counteshaft nut. (1982-83 only),Jared,vr250@swlink.net AMICS TRIAL I NATURA,Tuesday 9-May-2000 06:23:26,195.77.28.142 writes,THE ORIGINS OF TRIAL SANTUARIO DEL TRIAL SITUADO EN LA SERRALADA LITORAL EN LA COMARCA DEL MARESME (MATAR� BARCEL0NA). GRAN SOLERA Y AMPLIO GRUPO SOCIAL QUE ABARCA DIFERENTES EDADES Y NIVELES. LOCAL SOCIAL DIRIGIDO POR LA FAMILIA ROVIRA EN ESPECIAL JOAN ROVIRA (EXCAMPEON NACIONAL DE TRIAL) GRAN CONOCEDOR DE CASI TODAS LAS M�QUINAS SU HISTORIA Y DEL MUNDO DEL TRIAL EN GENERAL. ,COLLA CAN ROVIRA MATAR� (BARCELONA),ORF@OLE.COM Do you want a rare Cota 307?,Tuesday 9-May-2000 06:04:12,195.77.28.142 writes,VENDO COTA 307 EN MUY BUEN ESTADO PRECIO A CONVENIR. AUNQUE FUE UTILIZADA EN COMPETICI�N ESTA MUY ENTERA CASI TODO DE ORIGEN. DEJAR OFERTA EN MI BUZ�N CONTACTAR� EN TU P�GINA WEB.,Oscar Rodriguez Fernandez,orf@ole.com 11m,Wednesday 3-May-2000 10:10:48,206.28.244.106 writes,does anyone know of an 11M? 44 total built. or which 250 4spd montesa that could be used to replicate one into a ahrma legal classic class trials bike? thanks rick,rick,cantrellrick@hotmail.com please identify the year of this bike!!!!,Thursday 27-Apr-2000 21:41:53,165.154.252.6 writes,i need help for a friend who just got this bike its a late 123 cota trail but we don't know what year it is!!!!!! ser# 28M09724 Thanks for the help!!!!! Gerry.,Gerry w,carger@auracom.com Re: please identify the year of this bike!!!!,Friday 9-Feb-2001 17:33:44,,Your bike is a 1974 model.,Roger,ROGERDALE360@EXCITE.COM 123 Clutch cover,Tuesday 25-Apr-2000 11:02:54,205.188.193.57 writes,Wanted! A clutch cover for a 1972 123 Cota. Thank You!,Tony,LATC1956@aol.com Rear Shocks,Tuesday 25-Apr-2000 08:37:47,198.103.167.14 writes,I am looking for information about the amount and type of oil required for the Telesco rear shocks of my 247T. I had to disassemble them to straighten one shaft and refinish the bodies. Thanks,Mike, Wanted: 348 chain tubes rear fender,Tuesday 18-Apr-2000 16:55:11,199.181.174.158 writes,Looking for NOS or good condition chain tubes for a 348. Also looking for broken rear fender for same. I need the forward section. Thanks,Erwin Roman,hwy51guzzi@hotmail.com front axle,Thursday 13-Apr-2000 14:32:11,195.92.194.15 writes,Can anyone show me how the front axle is built up and held in the front froks. Many thanks,cota 348,ELLIOTT@KEVS1968.FREESEVRE.CO.UK Re: front axle,Friday 14-Apr-2000 14:38:52,12.34.180.66 writes,Check out: http://www.members.tripod.com/cotamon/page45.html It shows the axle and how it is put together. What exactly do you need to know? The fork tube with the bigger axle hole holds the shouldered part of the bolt in place and keeps it centered. A pinch bolt locks the shouldered part of the bolt in place once the axle nut is installed and sinched down. Let me know if you have any questions. ,Frankie,solder_me@hotmail.com Montesa Inventory for sale,Sunday 26-Mar-2000 21:53:27,208.51.135.180 writes,The remaining Montesa Inventory from "The Chain & Sprocket" Montesa dealer from the seventies throught 1996 is availible. Email me at hometeam@warwick.net if you would like a bid invitation. Thanks Clif,Clifton Patrick,hometeam@warwick.net Flywheel cover screws,Saturday 25-Mar-2000 20:09:56,207.42.37.27 writes,I have an '82 349 and it's usually a real pain to remove the screws on the flywheel cover(they are flat head screws). Does any know where i can find allen head screws that will fit? ,John,hotroddr@sunlink.net Re: Flywheel cover screws,Wednesday 26-Apr-2000 21:28:41,199.181.174.158 writes,John My 348 has a couple of these screws stuck in the clutch cover. Don't know how I'm going to get them out. When I do though I'm taking them to a local industrial fastener supplier and get allen head replacements. I'll post my findings here and maybe get a couple of sets together. Erwin,Erwin,hwy51guzzi@hotmail.com Re: Flywheel cover screws,Friday 28-Apr-2000 21:43:56,165.154.252.26 writes,for any metric bolts i go to my local m/c salvage and buy a bucket of allen head bolts for $5!!!(they collect them when stripping bikes for parts) talk about recycling!!!,Gerry w,carger@auracom.com Re: Flywheel cover screws,Thursday 13-Jul-2000 09:25:20,38.32.78.141 writes,Theres only one place to get anything Metric!! Metric Screw and Tool. 9 Lake st. Wakfeild Ma. 01880 Not sure if there number can be reached long distance or not but its 1 800-Metric1 (1-800-638-7421) Fax (781) 246-3335 Regular phone (781) 245-2507 If they don't have it its not metric! Those hard to find things like swing arm axles and taperhead ed countersunk screws (DIN 964) ect. Print this info out and stapple it to the wall in the garage!!!!!!!! Tony ,Tony Leary,LearyEng@tiac.net UPDATE FINALLY!!,Saturday 18-Mar-2000 16:10:56,12.34.180.74 writes,Hey Everyone! Just finished another update of the site. Let me know what you think and if there are any corrections or gliches ...let me know. You can e-mail me or just leave a reply HERE. I have used all of my available space so I'm going to have to find another space or link to a new tripod site when I make more additions. I'm getting "tuned up" for the new trials season so good luck to all and I hope to see some of you out THERE!!! THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP!!! THIS SITE WOULD NEVER "BE" WITHOUT ALL OF YOU!!! ,Frankie,solder_me@hotmail.com Re: UPDATE FINALLY!!,Sunday 21-May-2000 13:36:47,195.92.67.36 writes,Brilliant site!!!! One problem I found was on the specs page for the 349 it listed the headings but not the data. Maybe its just my browser? Keep up the good work.,John Hughes (UK), COTA 123 ALLOY REAR FENDER,Saturday 18-Mar-2000 09:04:39,195.147.246.147 writes,Have any of you guys out there got a rear fender for my 123? It looks a bit worse for where without the genuine thing. I'm also after a kickstand.,Jimmy,jwh@nascr.net Spark Plugs???,Thursday 16-Mar-2000 17:14:10,12.34.180.74 writes,I just received this message from a fellow Cota owner. If anybody has any advice post it here or reply to Gaylord in person. Thanks: PatsyBunnell@webtv.net Hi Frankie A few guys on the Trials action board are saying my '76 348's will have better luck using Bosh WR8DP plugs but when I bought them I found the end that screws into the head is 3mm longer than the N12Y and NGK-BP5ES. Can you find any info on weather this extra length is going to hit or damage the piston? We have our first meet (MAVT) this weekend and I'd love to know if it's safe to use the Bosh or try the NGK. I was going to post this question on you discussion board but being completly computer illitterate I am hoping you have an answer. Later Gaylord Sr. ,Frankie,solder_me@Hotmail.com Re: Spark Plugs???,Thursday 16-Mar-2000 17:48:48,165.154.128.85 writes,Gaylord: i have the bosch catalog i front of me and it states: 305cc 348 cota:WR8DS ("s" denotes silver resister)the "p" is platinum. so it should be ok. and listed under Bosch "super" is W8DC. in the tech section all the plugs mentioned above(bosch) have 3/4" reach 13/16 hex 14mm.It also states "extended tip" Gerry.( this book is 5 yrs old),Gerry Wilson,carger@auracom.com 247 348 349 Kickstarter Orientation,Thursday 9-Mar-2000 20:37:38,199.181.174.158 writes,(This might be common knowledge but FYI) Be careful installing or repositioning your kickstarter on the shaft. If it is positioned too far forward (it looks racy and is out of the way) when it is kicked all the way through the machined stop on the kickstart shaft will crash into the case just in front of the countershaft sprocket. Mine had a nice neat hole that the stop fit very nicely through. With the kickstarter mounted at the same angle as the cylinder the stop is in line with the lever instead of leading it. So if you kick all the way through to six o'clock that's where the stop ends up. Next time you have the cover off slip on the kickstarter stroke the engine over by hand and notice the relationship between the stop and the lever. Lots of folks with holed cases suspect a rock or previous chain breakage as the cause of their problem. I think some of it might be self inflicted. Once that hole is punched through it's easy for the stop to finish the job at the top of the stroke if you let the lever slam itself home. Regards Erwin Roman ,Erwin,eagleston@earthlink.com Re: 247 348 349 Kickstarter Orientation,Thursday 9-Mar-2000 23:03:22,205.188.200.46 writes,It's that way on the 123 also. The previous owner of my 123 took care of that for me? I've got to repair the clutch cover?!?! He must've had a heavy foot as the kickstarter is brazed too.,Tony,LATC1956@aol.com Re: 247 348 349 Kickstarter Orientation,Friday 12-Jan-2001 15:52:14,,I have just had the exact same problem on my 247 I have fixed it with epoxy filler. I was wondering if there is a better way incase this one fails. cheers WILL,WILL, cota 123 info,Saturday 4-Mar-2000 21:34:19,165.154.128.70 writes,i posted a request for the rear muffler for a cota123 its seems there is none!!!!! my exhaust has had a small aluminum "tip" welded on at some point in it's life I thought this was to replace a missing piece!!! but i guess it's just supposed to be a simple tail pipe!!(stock) could any one tell me the if white is stock for the frame? what colour is the swing arm front forks and triple clamps supposed to be? what can i use to strip the tank/seat? all info is for a '72 123 cota thanks again everybody for your continued help! ,Gerry ,carger2auracom.com Re: cota 123 info,Thursday 9-Mar-2000 19:58:25,199.181.174.158 writes,Go to Ebay.com and search on "montesa". There is a rough but restorable 123 being auctioned and the current bid is only $50. Good luck!,Erwin, 123 cota parts(1972),Sunday 27-Feb-2000 21:16:06,165.154.128.74 writes,i need a clutch cover(right side)for a '72 123 cota. also need exhaust (stock) the third section (under the seat to the tail pipe)for the same bike. Thanks Gerry Toronto,Gerry,carger@auracom.com Re: 123 cota parts(1972),Thursday 2-Mar-2000 13:10:57,216.106.20.6 writes,Call me at 573-334-9424 I may be able to help. 8 - 5 central time. Dennis Jones,Dennis Jones, wanted cota 348 or 123,Sunday 27-Feb-2000 18:54:06,142.194.212.222 writes,looking for a good ready to ride machine. I'm located in Northern Ontario Canada. If anyone can help please let me know. Thanks.. :),,just-jeepin@excite.com Re: wanted cota 348 or 123,Thursday 4-May-2000 16:33:29,209.195.240.152 writes,i have 2 123 for sale 500 each,,creen@skyhigh.com 348 parts For Sale,Sunday 27-Feb-2000 06:22:19,208.58.239.89 writes,348 Parts For Trade or Sale 1- Sandblasted painted frame swingarm. $ 125.00 1- Sandblasted hi-temp painted exhaust. $ 75.00 1- O.K. condition frontend. Complete. Needs rebuild. $ 50.00 I need the following for 70 247: Clean exhaust pipe gas cap clean airbox metal fenders.,Tom Long,tomalisonlong@rcn.com Re: 348 parts For Sale,Thursday 2-Mar-2000 13:16:05,216.106.20.6 writes,Does front end have a hub and rim? If so call me 1-800-333-0438 Thanks Dennis,Dennis Jones, premix,Friday 25-Feb-2000 16:39:53,206.28.244.83 writes,have been running stihl chainsaw premix at 50/1 with 93 octane in my 348 everything seems to be fine less smoke better idle will ride 2 day event tomorrow and sunday. anyone have any thoughts on this ratio or oil type? had been at 30/1 with castrol and have not fouled a plug since changing. i'm not recommending this to anyone just yet but would like to hear opinons. rick ,rick, Re: premix,Tuesday 7-Mar-2000 21:36:03,209.245.111.134 writes,I ran one of my 348's lastyear at about 48:1 using torco racing oil and 91 texaco. It ran better and no plugs fouled. My friend runs his ossa at 64:1 using cam2 and kilblatz racing fuel. Im not that brave. Paul,Paul,llp0007@earthlink.net Re: premix,Friday 10-Mar-2000 18:40:43,165.154.128.71 writes,Rick i am sure you will get lots of people telling you not to run small engine oil But I work in a cemetery and the lawn care people(usually summer students)beat the crap out of the kawi grass trimmers hedge trimmers and other 2 strokes.These things run 6 days/8hrs a week and we never have a problem with oiling! And they don't get any airflow near what a motorcyle gets! I have seen them go for lunch and leave them RUNNING!!!! So who knows???? ,Gerry WIlson,carger@auracom.com Re: premix,Monday 13-Mar-2000 12:03:06,199.181.174.158 writes,In my 247 was using Golden Spectro at 20:1 or 32:1 but it was pretty dirty. The 247s weep unburned fuel at the header/cylinder flange and I noticed that the Golden Spec was really "tarry." I switched to Klotz BeNol same ratios for a summer but after reading an article in the SMOG newsletter by a very experienced Bultaco mechanic/racer I switched to Klotz TC-W2. First off the BeNol shouldn't be used below 32 degrees F and second it doesn't have any rust inhibiting agents. The TC-W2 is BIA certified and will prevent the formation of rust on your crank and bearings when the bike sits up in a humid environment. Last thing I want is a rusty crank! It also burns cleaner than the Golden Spectro. BTW I'm running 32:1 in my 348 with no problems so far. Erwin,Erwin,eagleston@earthlink.com bolts ,Friday 25-Feb-2000 11:34:15,206.28.244.103 writes,fellow needs source of side cover bolts for 247 any help out there thanks rick,rick,cantrellrick@hotmail.com Vintage Trials,Thursday 24-Feb-2000 20:11:26,208.3.221.118 writes,For anyone who may be interested in vintage trials events in the eastern US (PA MD VA WV OH etc.) Please check out the following site: http://homestead.juno.com/mavt/MAVT.html There are 12 vintage events this year and one riding school. The school is being held on Sat. March 25 and the first vintage event is on March 26. Both are at Candytown Motorcycle Club in Middletown PA. The events are a lot of fun and they bring young and old vintage riders together. If you enjoy riding your vintage bike and like a bit of friendly competition please join us. Any brand bike is welcome. ,pauldez,pauldez@desupernet.net cota from brazil,Tuesday 22-Feb-2000 16:08:04,200.187.193.25 writes,sao paulo 02.22.00 hello my name is luis and my english is very bad. I have a 349 cota 83/84. I would like to receive informations about montesa. I don�t know if here in Sao Paulo exists someone who works whith montesa. Please send informations. thanks.,luis dauden,dauden@inprima.com.br Cota 25,Tuesday 22-Feb-2000 08:42:43,38.30.79.254 writes,I just saw a Cota 25 on Ebay.com Looks good. ,Erwin, Wanted: Good 348 cases,Friday 18-Feb-2000 23:50:50,199.181.174.158 writes,I recently bought a "great condition" Rathmell 348 that "ran fine" a few months ago when it was parked. Never again. Before handing over the cash I stripped and cleaned the carb but it still wouldn't kickstart. Kicked back like a mule. We did manage to bump start it and putt around though so I bought it. When I got it home I discovered the timing was set to a whopping 3/4" BTDC. Pulling the flywheel showed there was no woodruff key and the hole smashed the through the case between the c/s and the flywheel became real obvious too. It was old damage judging by the dirt and crap under the cover. Funny it wasn't mentioned any of the times I asked about what work it might need. Anyone out there have a dead 348 engine with good cases (right one in particular)? I'm trying to repair mine without stripping the engine but I may need to go to that expense if it doesn't work. Morale of the story? Buy a bike from a friend you've ridden events with. Otherwise field strip that sucker before handing over your cash. Many happy endos to the PO. ,Erwin,hwy51guzzi@hotmail.com Re: Wanted: Good 348 cases,Wednesday 23-Feb-2000 08:28:48,206.191.69.50 writes,I have the same problem with my 349. The chain must have broken and it punched a hole in the magneto cover and crankcase. Lucky it was only the crankcase flange. You could strip the engine and have it welded or try an epoxy filler such as JB Weld. I have heard that this stuff really works it could be a temporary solution until you find a pair of cases. Here in Toronto they charge about $50 per inch for welding aluminiun depending on the complexity. Regards Ed,ED,ed.wrzosek@agra.com 247T exhaust,Friday 18-Feb-2000 08:26:59,198.103.167.14 writes,Prior to stripping the frame of my new (1972-74) 247T project (21M) I need to replace a botched repair of the rear exhaust bracket. How is the rear muffler held onto the forward muffler? At present they are fitted like the forward joint with a rubber hose which makes the tail pipe interfere with the license plate holder. The bracket on the muffler was also replaced and may not be in the correct location. Any help on dimensions of these brackets would be much appreciated. This is my first trials bike and Montesa but I have been road racing a Bultaco for 13 years.,Mike, Cota 349,Sunday 6-Feb-2000 17:56:52,200.10.225.75 writes,I own a Cota 349 that I have to sell. Can anybody tell me the actual price of this Montesa. It is working and in general terms is well conserved. ,ocho,awaite@mixmail.com Re: Cota 349,Saturday 19-Feb-2000 14:19:24,208.188.16.87 writes,Hi: I'm looking for a good restorable trials bike. If you decide how much you want drop me a note. I'm in Dallas TX. I'll pay for ship- ping and crating if price is reasonable. Thanks.,Bob Ramsden,bob@whirlwindsaws.com Twin Spark 348,Monday 24-Jan-2000 18:33:25,195.92.194.74 writes,Hello Is anyone familiar with a twin spark plug option on the 348 Cota? I have been offered a bike (which I want to buy) but I am concerned that it has this twin plug head. Is this a recognised modification or a bodge?? Might it cause any problems?? Any advise that could be offered would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.,Paul,paul@livemore.freeserve.co.uk Re: Twin Spark 348,Tuesday 25-Jan-2000 09:30:07,168.191.249.31 writes,The heads have two threaded plug holes standard. You can either put a "spare" plug in the second angled hole leave the blanking plug in or install a compression release. I've never seen one with two spark plugs install that were both connected to coils and firing. They're so close together I doubt there would be any benefit. Many two stroke dirt bikes in the '70s had a second plug hole in their heads.,Erwin,eagleston@earthlink.com Re: Twin Spark 348,Sunday 6-Feb-2000 23:16:01,200.10.225.75 writes,Paul: As far as I know the two sparks are part off the original design and the idea is that if you are in the middle off no where in your bike and the spark dies you can change the plug to the other one without any tool in few seconds and then go on. Can you tell me how much are you paying for the bike. I need it for reference cause I have to sell my cota 349. Thanks. Ocho,Ocho,awaite@mixmail.com 1970 Cota Mk3,Sunday 16-Jan-2000 16:14:35,204.176.109.125 writes, Hi. I got into this montesa as it seemed easy enough to get it in running order.All it needed was a cylinder(which is only for this year or earlier) and one rear shock.The bike was not thrashed during it's service so things were not bent or squashed.But being in the northwest all the chrome except the exhaust header was really in poor shape with most of the chrome flaking off.I got stalled last year with finding a cylinder.Still looking for one.I am also considering passing along this project to some one in a better position to finish it. I have had the seat rebuilt and cleaned and painted the frame and swing arm.I have period solid aluminum gold bars for it (used).if you think you could help me with the right type of cylinder and/or have a rear shock to let go please let me know.If you are interested in buying it off of me make me an offer I'll be fair.Thanks!,Lonnie Ortiz,lonortiz@yahoo.com IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT!,Wednesday 12-Jan-2000 10:24:48,168.191.72.166 writes,In case you haven't heard President Bill Clinton is proposing a plan that will establish 62 MILLION acres of national forest (your public land) as wilderness. This will affect forested land in 43 states. The legality of his methods are in question. In 1964 The Federal Wilderness Act was passed that required open debate and Congressional vote prior to declaring land as wilderness. Clinton's actions shortcut these processes. There is a very great possibility that motorized recreation of ANY kind will be prohibited on this land as "As outlined in documents from the Forest Service The Clinton proposal would impose Wilderness-like restrictions probably including a ban on motorized recreation on 80 MILLION acres without a single elected official ever voting on it." (From AMA's American Motorcyclist magazine) Please go to http://www.ama-cycle.org and click on "Fight Clinton's Land Closure" for more information. Like them or not the AMA is fighting for your rights when it comes to enjoying any form of motorcycling. PLEASE consider Joining and supporting their legistative efforts. Thanks,Erwin Roman,eagleston@earthlink.com IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT!,Wednesday 12-Jan-2000 10:02:45,168.191.72.166 writes,,Erwin Roman,eagleston@earthlink.com WANTED: Cota Front Fender Mount,Wednesday 12-Jan-2000 07:28:22,209.86.140.160 writes,If any one has info on a front fender mount or fork brace for a 1974 Cota 123 please contact me via e-mail or phone (770) 424 6351. Must have a 4" span.,Rich C,adthings@mindspring.com Cota 349 Exhaust,Wednesday 12-Jan-2000 06:26:47,203.15.41.2 writes,Does anyone have a usable exhaust for a red tank Cota 349---The model with the external fuel sight guage. I am posting this message as a last resort before having an exhaust made.,Brad,B.J.King@uq.net.au help!,Sunday 9-Jan-2000 13:21:34,195.121.163.136 writes,hello I'm an owner of a montesa cota 247 and I don't know if it's built in 72 or 74 my friends say 72 and the montes-apages say 74 and I dont know how many hp's and nm the bike has! does anybody know????????/ thank you!,G�rard,gjmva@dds.nl 247 CARB.,Saturday 8-Jan-2000 17:10:43,212.126.144.12 writes,COULD ANYBODY TELL ME THE CORRECT SIZE OF CARBURETTOR JETS FOR A 1971 247.[AMAL CONCENTRIC]. PLEASE.,Barry Hyett,baredett@hotmail.com Re: 247 CARB.,Sunday 9-Jan-2000 00:43:41,208.203.102.127 writes,27mm Main jet-150 low speed (pilot jet)-40 slide-2.5 needle jet-106 needle-U Hope this helps!,Jared,vr250@swlink.net spark plug hole??,Saturday 8-Jan-2000 15:56:36,165.154.128.83 writes,whats the second spark plug hole for? a plug screws in BUT the hole is plug at bottom except for a small hole! compression release? do i need it or should i just put a dummy plug in? are you sick of me yet!!! i own a harley and a old triumph this spanish stuff is well lets just say different! thanks Gerry Toronto 123 Cota (1972),Gerry ,carger@auracom.com Re: spark plug hole??,Tuesday 22-Feb-2000 18:07:48,216.221.46.226 writes,Hi Gerry I have a 348 cota with 2 plug holes. The guy I bought it from said it came with the 2nd plug for compition purposes if you fowled a plug just switch to the other one. I found a double Honda coil and hooked up booth to fire together. Seems to work good on the big bore. I don't know if there is any advantage to doing this on a 123.,dennis,bikeguyd@hotmail.com C.O.T.A. SITE UPDATED!!,Monday 3-Jan-2000 17:06:00,208.140.212.88 writes,The website has been updated (Jan. 3 2000)!!,Frankie, Re: C.O.T.A. SITE UPDATED!!,Thursday 6-Jan-2000 03:52:21,210.55.33.197 writes,Good on ya mate your doing a great job don't know how you find time to play with the Monty. Clive......,Clive Holt,cliveanddeb@xtra.co.nz Re: To Clive,Thursday 6-Jan-2000 11:02:36,208.140.212.87 writes,Thanks Clive! It's cold here in Illinois right now so I can't ride the Monty right now anyway. Figured I might as well try to be productive and do some good for humanity so.... I started the C.O.T.A. site instead!!! Just kidding!! Thanks for writing Clive,Frankie,solder_me@hotmail.com Cota 172 Parts Book,Monday 3-Jan-2000 09:09:27,168.191.72.45 writes,If you're looking for a parts book for a 172 Cota or a Montesa 250 enduro go to Ebay.com and type "montesa" in the search window. There's one of each.,Erwin Roman,hwy51guzzi@hotmail.com 20" tire,Sunday 2-Jan-2000 22:36:46,165.154.128.83 writes,does anyone still make a 20" front tire for my 123 cota??,Gerry ,carger@auracom.com Re: 20" tire,Sunday 2-Jan-2000 23:44:41,216.43.20.120 writes,hi : here is a add i spotted on jeff spencers page hope it helps! 20" Dunlop trials tire (made in England) nos $75 Sent From: 63.15.50.191 (1cust191.tnt3.rochester.ny.da.uu.net) Phone: 716-292-6844 Karl Heise <kheise@msm.com> Rochester NY USA - Thursday December 30 1999 at 21:01:59 (CST),john laurent,kt250@cillnet.com heres his email address,Sunday 2-Jan-2000 23:48:06,216.43.20.120 writes,20" Dunlop trials tire (made in England) nos $75 Phone: 716-292-6844 Karl Heise kheise@msm.com Rochester NY USA - Thursday December 30 1999 at 21:01:59 (CST),, Re: 20" tire,Saturday 18-Mar-2000 09:14:12,195.147.246.147 writes,I know of a shop in England with original Pirellis (4 fronts) left. He wants 60$ each though.,Jimmy,jwh@nascr.net This site,Sunday 2-Jan-2000 10:21:27,212.126.144.12 writes,I have recently rebuilt a 1971 247 not to concours standard but good enough to ride in some local trials here in Gloucestershire England.The Cota's abilities are much greater than mine (dito computers} but it is all good fun. Now I have this website :BRILLIANT:. ,Barry Hyett,baredett@hotmail.com front hubs and airboxes,Saturday 1-Jan-2000 09:05:09,209.23.1.233 writes,hi mike here.great website!!!!!can anyone help me?i am need of an airbox and a front hub for each of my cotas.i have a 71 247 and a 75 247t.if i can get a detailed pic of the airbox i could make my own.help me get these cotas out where they belong in the woods!!! thanks people!,mike crosby,aermachi@hotmail.com WHO IS THE RIDER.....,Friday 31-Dec-1999 10:33:15,208.140.212.74 writes,Erwin Roman e-mailed me and asked me who the little guy on the Cota was. I thought he was refering to a different page of the site so the question still stands...... DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHO THE RIDER IS ON THE TOP OF THE INDEX (First)PAGE???? I scanned the picture out of an old general book on motorcycles and there was no caption. If somebody knows ....please let us all know. Thanks ,Frankie,solder_me@hotmil.com 123 cota,Thursday 30-Dec-1999 22:08:02,165.154.128.74 writes,i just had a look at the 123 cota test (thanks again Frankie) what is the round item located on the right side frame above the swing arm pivot? tool kit? just curious! Gerry Wilson Toronto,Gerry Wilson,carger@auracom.com Re: 123 cota,Thursday 30-Dec-1999 23:43:33,208.140.212.106 writes,I'm not for sure but I think it is a little tool box for a small tool roll. If anybody knows let us know. Thanks!!,Frankie, Re: 123 cota,Monday 10-Jan-2000 20:56:29,209.86.41.221 writes, That round item located on the right side frame above the swing arm is indeed a tool case. I just purchased a nice 123. There is a 10 12 13 17 22 24mm & spark plug wrench included in a Montessa loged vinyl roll. Looks like a space for a screw driver too.,Rich C,adthings@mindspring.com Venting 247 ignition,Thursday 30-Dec-1999 20:28:56,199.181.174.158 writes,What's the scoop on venting the ignition cover on the 247's? I've seen some that have a hose run up to the cylinder fins. Occassionally my '72's points will foul (not gas/oil) and I'm wondering if condensation is the problem. Generally if the bike sits for a couple of weeks (ok ok ) there won't be any spark and I'll have to clean the points. After that with a good tickle it's a first kick starter every time. Points and condensor are new BTW but the problem existed with the old set also. If the case is vented won't moisture enter and cause the same thing? Erwin,Erwin Roman,hwy51guzzi@hotmail.com Re: Venting 247 ignition,Friday 31-Dec-1999 00:42:21,208.203.102.62 writes,Erwin I run my vent tube up the down tube and terminate it around the coil area. Be sure to point the end of the tube down to avoid any water getting in when washing. ,Jared,vr250@swlink.net Re: Re: Venting 247 ignition,Saturday 5-Feb-2000 13:58:39,206.28.244.87 writes,erwin i had same problem on one of my 348s gray powdery film on points accidently discovered a dirt dauber had clogged vent removed it problem solved.,rick, Re: Venting 247 ignition,Saturday 5-Feb-2000 14:03:19,206.28.244.87 writes,reread your message if as it sounds there is no vent at all i would think one neccessary contact jared to make sure.,rick again , Mag Problems,Wednesday 29-Dec-1999 20:35:18,208.140.212.67 writes,Does anybody have a no-fail way of getting the mag off??? I finally got the stuck nut off.....man was it TOUGH!!! Now I've stuck my mag puller on there and I can't get the thing to budge!! I've tried to get a little oil down in there and I've tried putting a little heat on it. It just won't move. Any suggestions would be helpful. Project 247 is at a stand-still for know!!! Thanks Frankie,Frankie, Re: Mag Problems,Thursday 30-Dec-1999 00:37:59,216.43.20.114 writes,frankie: when i first got the mag off of the 348 i sold you i also had a hard time getting it off i had to smack the end of the adjuster bolt that goes threw the center of the puller a few times really hard! just center your blows and dont spare the muscle!i hit it so hard it actually mushroomed the head of the adjuster bolt some.crude i know but thats what it took. good luck.(make it a fast hard smack),john laurent,kt250@cillnet.com Re: Mag Problems,Thursday 30-Dec-1999 20:21:52,199.181.174.158 writes,Hey Frankie Before I hit the end of my pressed together crank with anything I'd lay the bike (engine) on it's side and pour penetrating oil into the threaded hole on the flywheel. Then run your puller up tight and leave it for a few hours. Maybe overnight. Come back to it later loosen the puller then tighten it down again. Hope it works. Good luck! Erwin,Erwin,hwy51guzzi@hotmail.com Re: Mag Problems,Thursday 30-Dec-1999 23:40:40,208.140.212.106 writes,Well guys..... I tried to let some liquid wrench penetrate down in overnight with some tension on it (like Erwin suggested). Then I went out to the shop tonight to try again and I wound up stripping the threads on my puller (shouldn't have used a breaker bar on the mag puller bolt!!!). Still no luck and now I need a new puller. I've decided to just keep liquid wrench soaking down in the recess until I get a new puller from Jared. Thanks for the suggestions and if you have any more ideas let me know.,Frankie,solder_me@hotmail.com 123 Cota Test Report,Wednesday 29-Dec-1999 12:34:19,208.140.212.67 writes,Some of you have had problems finding the test report on the 123 Cota. I haven't made a direct link to it yet but you can access it at: http://www.members.tripod.com/cotamon/page27.html Sorry for the inconvience!! If any of you have any other old magazine articles let me know. That about does it for my colection of old Montesa literature. Also keep sending pictures of your Cota's. Thanks for all of your help. Frankie ,Frankie, Amal Carb Sleeving,Tuesday 28-Dec-1999 09:47:04,168.191.72.245 writes,Anyone know a shop or machinist who can sleeve the Amal on my '72 247 Cota?,Erwin Roman,hwy51guzzi@hotmail.com Re: Amal Carb Sleeving,Tuesday 28-Dec-1999 14:57:43,216.106.20.63 writes,Erwin Call Tony Glueck 573-334-8446. He has a name and number. He had this done and it worked great for him.,Dennis Jones, Re: Amal Carb Sleeving,Wednesday 29-Dec-1999 04:31:52,152.163.197.84 writes,I found this ad in Old Bike Journal the October 1999 issue. Lund Machine Co. 39474 Mount Hope Drive Lebanon OR 97355 541-258-2915 800-295-2915 Cost: Concentric & Monobloc $60 Early Standard $85 ,Tony,LATC1956@aol.com SITE UPDATE!!!,Tuesday 28-Dec-1999 04:06:22,208.140.212.86 writes,Well I finally got the page updated. Sorry for the inconvience of the page being down for a while. I added a lot of new items. There is a test report on the 123 for all of you Cota 123 Owner's (you'll have to go to the picture gallery to access it). I added the pictures to the 247 Test Report new news on the "Project 247" new advertisements new Hall of Fame pics and a whole lot more. Check it out!! And as always.........ENJOY!!! P.S. Send me your scans tips and info. Thanks for everything........VIVA Frankie,Frankie, AHRMA National Trials,Friday 24-Dec-1999 19:41:11,208.203.102.69 writes,I would encourage anyone who is thinking about attending the AHRMA National in Feb. at Phoenix to come on out and enjoy the sun! I am the Trialsmaster for Saturday's event which is right next to the mx track. Nothing dangereous just lots of technical turns and offcambers usually three loops of 8 sections. Come on down to Phx. and tour the museum of Montesa natural history (my house!) and pick up some parts for your Cota! Let's get the Cota's out there! E-mail me for more info on the 2000 Phoenix National. Regards Jared S/W Montesa,Jared (Southwest Montesa),vr250@swlink.net Update Soon,Thursday 23-Dec-1999 19:02:58,208.140.212.85 writes, Just thought I'd post and say that I will try to update the site soon. I have some new info from Jared and I'm still working on getting some more pictures scanned. I've been busy working on my 348 (trying to get ready for AHRMA 2000). AND I finally received most of my 247 project. I unpacked it tonight and peeked inside the motor. Looks good just needs cleaned and everything checked out. I also have been beefing up the stock 348 pegs look for an article on that as soon as my pictures are developed. Take care and e-mail me if you have any additions. Thanks!! Frankie,Frankie,solder_me@hotmail.com AHRMA Midwest Vintage Trials Series,Thursday 23-Dec-1999 12:17:16,216.106.20.33 writes,Thanks for the great web page Frankie. I want to let all you Cota fans know myself and Tony Glueck are coordinators for the Midwest Vintage Trials Series. 2000 will be a six event series in Missouri and Southern Illinois. We will use AHRMA rules and classes. I have a 348 and 247. Tony has a 349 and two 247's. Bring those Cotas and come join the fun. Contact me at 800-333-0438 or 573-651-0643 or E mail mjones@mvp.net Dennis Jones ,Dennis Jones,mjones@mvp.net Re: AHRMA Midwest Vintage Trials Series,Thursday 23-Dec-1999 19:06:08,208.140.212.85 writes,Dennis Would it be possible for me to get a schedule of dates and times for the webpage? I live in Illinois and plan on riding as many events as possible. Thanks!!!,Frankie,solder_me@hotmail.com cota 123 rightside engine case,Sunday 19-Dec-1999 12:53:53,165.154.128.84 writes,Gerry wilson here i need help! just purchased a 123 cota. would like to ride this spring. i need a workshop manual which i am currently looking for. BUT in the meantime i need a picture either from a manual or your bike of the rightside engine case with the kick start shaft installed! the cast in boss that stops the kick start from rotating too far forward has broken off! (thus the bike was recieved with a hole in clutch cover directly in front of the kickstarter where the kickstarter was rotating to far forward.) ANY HELP WOULD WOULD BE APPRECIATED!!!! thanks again Gerald Wilson Toronto.,Gerry ,carger@auracom.com Re: cota 123 rightside engine case,Monday 20-Dec-1999 12:19:25,192.102.13.6 writes,Hi Gerry I got sort of the same problem with my Cota 349. The drive chain broke and punched a hole in the crankcase but i think i can fix it with epoxy. If the area thats broken off has to bear any load such as the kickstarter stop. You may have to get it welded. I have a Clymer manual from the 70's that may cover that model i will check it out tonight. In the meantime checkout the Southwest Montesa website they have a reprint of that manual. I am also in Toronto. Btw are you a CVMG member? There were a couple 123's for sale in last months news letter. Regards Ed,Ed Wrzosek,ed.wrzosek@agra.com Way to go Frankie!!,Sunday 19-Dec-1999 11:10:44,207.205.242.3 writes,This board is great. Got my dream bike (348 Malcolm Rathmell). Just started the rebuild and will document the project. Waiting for pictures to be developed. Really looking forward to seeing some of you at AHRMA events in 2000. Feet UP!!,Bob Best,bestr@mindspring.com Re: Way to go Frankie!!,Monday 14-Feb-2000 17:21:19,192.152.248.100 writes,,Steve Odell,sodell@finning.ca Re: Way to go Frankie!!,Monday 14-Feb-2000 17:24:24,192.152.248.100 writes,Just a note to let you know that I have the Canadian importers inventory of NOS Montesa parts with strong coverage of the 348. Mostly engine tranny wheel and fork parts. Send me your list and I will let you know what I have. I am in the Vancouver B.C. area west coast of Canada. Regards Steve Odell,Steve Odell,sodell@finning.ca Trial on Italy,Saturday 18-Dec-1999 18:04:36,62.10.88.3 writes,visitate il nostro sito http://trial.freeweb.org ,trial on the web,trial@freeweb.org cota help ,Thursday 16-Dec-1999 19:49:17,165.154.128.65 writes,i need a source for cota 123 parts anybody in canada?? great web site! ,Gerry,carger@auracom.com Re: cota help ,Thursday 16-Dec-1999 20:06:29,208.140.212.77 writes,Gerry If you're looking for parts Jared Bates in Arizona is the place to go but Dan Fisher of Dallen Motorcycles might be worth a try. He is located in Canada has a couple of nice looking Cota's for sale and has a web page at "dallanmotorcycles.com" . Like I said I'm not for sure that this will help but it might be worth a try. Frankie,Frankie,solder_me@hotmail.com Re: cota help ,Monday 14-Feb-2000 17:32:36,192.152.248.100 writes,Gerry I took over the Canadian importers stock in 1988 and have been selling the parts since. Let me know what you are needing and I will get back to you with price and availability. I am in Surrey B.C. Regards Steve Odell. ,Steve Odell,sodell@finning.ca Great Web Site,Tuesday 14-Dec-1999 13:16:10,192.102.13.6 writes,Looks like the begining of a great web site. Keep up the good work. I bought a Cota 349 last spring and now am in the process of fixing it up a bit. I have a ton of questions to ask and will start with just one. How do you remove the swing arm? I removed the pivot bolt but can't seem to get it apart. Is there a trick to this? I have a few other bikes and hope to be of help to someone in the future. Thanks Ed ,Ed Wrzosek,ed.wrzosek@agra.com Re: Great Web Site,Tuesday 14-Dec-1999 20:45:19,208.203.102.62 writes,Ed Sometimes the swingarm bolt can be very stubborn to remove. If you can't smack it thru with a dead blow hammer or block of wood (you don't want to mess up the threads!) you might have to heat the area up with a propane torch and try to smack it thru. You also might be able to squirt some penatrating oil into the bushings to loosen them up. There is a bronze sleeve and a steel insert in the swingarm of the 348-49 Cota's that usually does not cause this kind of trouble unlike the 247's which use a rubber bushing which can be a real nightmare to remove the swingarm bolt.,Jared,vr250@swlink.net Re: Great Web Site,Wednesday 15-Dec-1999 09:11:32,192.102.13.6 writes,Thanks for your reply. Actually i did get the pivot bolt out and it was ok no rust etc. However the swing arm will not come out. Looks like i will have to pull a little harder at it. Thanks Again Ed,Ed Wrzosek,ed.wrzosek@agra.com Re: Re: Great Web Site,Wednesday 15-Dec-1999 19:31:23,208.140.212.112 writes,Ed When I took my swingarm off I had to tap one side of the swingarm down. By getting it at an angle it was easier to slide out. Hope this helps. Frankie,Frankie Flood,solder_me@hotmail.com Re: Great Web Site,Thursday 16-Dec-1999 12:29:43,192.102.13.6 writes,Thanks for the tip. I will give it a try. Ed,Ed Wrzosek, cota 123 right side engine case,Sunday 19-Dec-1999 12:48:44,165.154.128.84 writes,thanks Frankie for your previous help! Gerry wilson here i need help! just purchased a 123 cota. would like to ride this spring. i need a workshop manual which i am currently looking for. BUT in the meantime i need a picture either from a manual or your bike of the rightside engine case with the kick start shaft installed! the cast in boss that stops the kick start from rotating too far forward has broken off! (thus the bike was recieved with a hole in clutch cover directly in front of the kickstarter where the kickstarter was rotating to far forward.) ANY HELP WOULD WOULD BE APPRECIATED!!!! thanks again Gerald Wilson Toronto,Gerry Wilson,carger@auracom.com Welcome!!!,Monday 13-Dec-1999 20:54:07,208.140.212.82 writes, Well here it is the COTA message board!! I hope to talk to all of you owners here and maybe share some cool info. We should all thank John Laurent (owner of the Kawasaki KT and KX site) for helping me get this going. He has been a major source of info and support not to mention he got me started on Montesa's (I got my 348 off of him). THANKS JOHN!! Everyone enjoy the message board!! ,Frankie ,solder_me@hotmail.com nice web page!,Sunday 12-Dec-1999 00:28:58,216.43.20.76 writes,hey:nice page!keep up the good work i'll be checking in often say hi to your dad.,john laurent,kt250@cillnet.com This Site,Saturday 11-Dec-1999 22:55:45,171.218.237.202 writes,Keep up the good work! This site is GOOD and THANK YOU for your dedication and hard work!,Tony,LATC1956@aol.com